Gwyneth Defriez and Dakota Todd join Patrick this week to talk a little bit about the Dash vs Thorns match, Carli Lloyd’s unwillingness to understand what constitutes a red card as well as a conversation about why She Who Will Not Be Named never quite fit in with Portland fans.

Both Gwyn and Dakota are originally from England, and so we end up exploring how soccer (or football) is viewed in each country.

Music for the episode is all by Gina X Performance.